May 7, 2008
Home Sweet Refrigerator Box
Posted by Amanda under Bride Godzilla, Doggy Style, Happenings, Nash Vegas, Real Estate Goddess, The 312 | Tags: affordable housing, cardboard box, Cheetos, Chicago, classifieds, claustrophobia, diversity, Evanston, Hawaii, homeless, honeymoon, house-hutning, landlord, mortgage, Nashville, police scanner, retirement, Roger's Park, RoPa, Starbucks, The El, triple crown, Vietnam, Walgreen's, wedding, YMCA |Our landlord in Nashville has begun showing our house to potential tenants. We are driving up to Chicago next week to find a place to live, but if our previous house-hunting experiences are any indication, it takes us an average of 4.5 months of serious looking to find a place that is remotely acceptable for our over-anxious, hyper-critical, penny-pinching personalities. And that does not include the eight-month lead time during which I pore obsessively over the online classifieds.
Did I mention that, this time next month, we will be leaving for Hawaii? Between preparing for the wedding and the two (count ‘em) at-home receptions that follow (it’s our very own Nuptial Triple Crown!), we are more or less out of commission for six weeks.
That leaves us about 26 days (and 11 hours, 18 minutes, and nine seconds) to find, tour, finance, inspect, and close on a condo in the city. Not to mention we have to come up with a down payment while also paying for a wedding and honeymoon.
We are about to be homeless.
To top things off, Rob has decided that he wants to spend about half as much on a mortgage than would any reasonable person in our exact same financial situation. It’s all part of his Master Plan to retire by 40 with 20 million dollars in the bank. I’m not overly clear on the details, even though he and Andy have been fine-tuning the Plan for years, but from what I can gather it involves Sara not buying any fine Italian leather goods while living in Italy and me living in a cardboard box under the highway at North Avenue with my fluffy, fluffy white dog.
Of course, he insists on finding this “affordable housing” while not conceding things like central air, newer construction or remodeling, and proximity to the lake, the gym, the El, and a 24-hour Starbucks and Walgreen’s. Oh, and it can’t be in an elevator building, either. Too claustrophobic.
I can see myself with the stringy hair and ruddy complexion already. Maybe I’ll acquire a limp and a cardboard sign with details about my imaginary tour in Vietnam.
Rob’s latest solution: Roger’s Park, the northernmost Chicago neighborhood along the lake, just south of Evanston. Did you know you can buy a three-bedroom walk-up condo with all the bells and whistles for under $200,000? Heck, you can buy a ginormous single-family home for about twice that!
(Note to Chicago virgins: I know it sounds absurd, but that is an insanely good deal.)
So we did a little research and learned from the neighborhood’s website that RoPa is an eclectic and vibrant community, a place where people of diverse economic and cultural backgrounds can live in happy harmony, practically frolicking between their well-priced vintage homes.
Too good to be true? Perhaps, but there’s nothing like a little hope to get you in the mood for packing your bags, even when you practically just finished UN-packing from the last move. Then I stumbled across some less-than-reassuring blogs about Roger’s Park.
Like the one solely devoted to photos of abandoned Cheetos bags found in the neighborhood. That’s right. There are enough discarded bags of Cheetos in RoPa to warrant an entire blog.
Or this one that detailed the police scanner from just two hours on the night of Monday, May 2. Here’s an abridged version that includes only the violent crimes (no noise complaints or parking violations):
11:30 PM - Shots fired, 1200 block N. Campbell - “gang”
11:47 PM - Man with a gun walking around at 47th and Ashland
11:50 PM - Person shot, 1800 block N. California, police looking for “two male Hispanics”
11:51 PM - Man has a gun, 1800 block N. Kedzie
11:54 PM - Dispatcher says there is a “wolf or coyote” spotted at Clybourn and Fullerton. Cops on radio enjoy this. “Can we shoot?” “Tranquilizer darts.” “Come on, it’s only a wolf, you don’t have to shoot it.” “Can we shoot?” “Wolves are endangered.”
12:02 AM - Officer arranges for “removal” of a dead 19 year old female, gunshot to the head, from the ER of South Shore Hospital.
12:05 AM - Man “masturbating in the park.”
12:08 AM - Man with a gun threatened to shoot the caller on 5500 block W. Diversey, caller says he is now walking back toward him.
12:09 AM - Person down, 1400 block W. Farragut Avenue.
12:11 AM - Need evidence technician (ET) to photograph “the victim,” who is in critical condition at Mt. Sinai Hospital.
12:12 AM - Persons waving guns at 53rd and Ashland. They are driving a white Pontiac Bonneville. Reported by people who waved down a police officer.
12:20 AM - Shots fired, 1300 block of (unintelligible).
12:28 AM - ET requested in 10th District to photograph a victim, a “26 year old male black.” One of the perpetrators is in custody.
12:31 AM - Van hit a female “on the expressway” near 1800 block of N. Ashland. Illinois State Police are investigating.
12:34 AM - Two female Hispanics flashed a gun at Ohio and Ashland, then drove eastward. Purple car - another officer calls in that car is seen going northbound on Ashland, chase ensues. “Approaching Augusta…” Moments go by; “Stopped them in 1000 block of N. Ashland. “Request a female officer for a search.”
12:38 AM - Requesting backup for large fight at a house, 800 block of Sacramento.
12:42 AM - Cop radios from house fight, “disregard”
12:42 AM - Person with a gun, somebody’s girlfriend driving dark red or maroon Pontiac with Texas plates. “They’re still in the area” (13th, 14th Districts). Search ensues. Cop on radio, “That car’s been up in this area all night, by Potomac and (unintelligible), was in the are when those shots were fired.”
12:44 AM - (Responding to above) “We stopped that car earlier… We’ll get those plates to you…”
12:47 AM - Person shot, Belmont and (?)
12:47 AM - “We’ve rounded everybody up at (2900 block, Devon).”
12:48 AM - Assault, victim being followed by assailant in 7000 block, N. California. “No further info.”
12:54 AM - “You can cancel that ambulance.”
12:55 AM - Officer reports that a victim is “stable, gunshot wound to the right arm,” ET requested to photograph a silver Ford Taurus. Nobody in custody in the 11th District.
12:59 AM - 5800 block, N. Magnolia - 30 kids fighting out front.
1:05 AM - “Everybody’s dispersed” from fight on Magnolia.
1:04 AM - Robbery; two male blacks, 300 block E. Garfield on Green Line CTA train, took two cell phones and $60.00 cash.
1:14 AM - 8500 block, Marquette; breaking into house, man banging on windows and doors.
1:22 AM - “Shots fired.” “MORE SHOTS!” at Spaulding and Kimball.
1:26 AM - “Subjects ran south from Evergreen.”
1:38 AM - Male posing as a cop, 4400 block, S. ???.
1:39 AM - Westbound SUV on Division, people throwing beer cans as they drive.
1:42 AM - Male Hispanic walking with a gun, 47th and Troupe.
1:42 AM - 50 people fighting on street, 16th and Karlov, throwing bottles at police.
You know something? That cardboard box is looking better and better. Wait, wait, how does that song go? “Young man, there’s a place you can go …”
May 7, 2008 at 6:49 pm
Plus it’s more than 500 feet away from Hackney’s, which is much too far.
May 7, 2008 at 9:28 pm
Honey, none of those addresses from the police scanner are in Rogers Park.
May 7, 2008 at 10:06 pm
Blah… ignore the “less-than-reassuring blogs about Roger’s Park” that you find.
Most of the Rogers Park blogs are reactionary, and like to exaggerate what happens as much as possible.
I live in Rogers Park, and it is a great place to live. Like any community in the city, there is crime, but the neighborhood on the whole is quite nice, very diverse, on the lake, and well worth buying in and living in.
Though… I would like to see some of the 3 bedroom condos for under $200,000.
May 7, 2008 at 10:27 pm
Rogers Park is great. Try to find a place within walking distance to the Metra stop at Lunt/Ravenswood, so you can be downtown in 17 minutes.
By the way, most of the locations in that police radio scanner you quote are not in Rogers Park. (”RoPa”? Never heard of that one)
May 7, 2008 at 10:59 pm
Big Gurl is right — not a single one of those police scanner events happened anywhere near Rogers (no apostrophe) Park. I mean, it’s not all quiet, small-town happyland up here, but the dangers of the neighborhood are greatly exaggerated by a handful of vengeful bloggers who don’t want anyone to move here because they hate the alderman. The logic of their crusade escapes most of the sensible people in the neighborhood.
Rogers Park has a lot to recommend it — the lake, tons of ethnic restaurants, CTA and Metra accessibility, arts and theatre, lovely housing stock, bike-friendly, pet-friendly and (mostly) friendly neighbors. Give it a try — and don’t listen to that Bench guy.
May 7, 2008 at 11:19 pm
I veto. Solely based on the fact that it will take at least 30 minutes to come see you…it’s like living in the suburbs.
May 8, 2008 at 9:20 pm
A 3 bedroom condo for under $200,000 in Rogers Park? Near the beach?? I think you may have to look a while to find that deal!! While Rogers Park is still an affordable neighborhood, I think you may be misinformed about the housing prices in this city (not to mention property taxes).
I live East of Sheridan (on the beach). Most condos are between $250,000 and $450,000. The more expensive ones are the 3 bedrooms. Again, a good deal for the city, not so good if you think you’ll get a single family home for $300,000.
Rogers Park (not RoPa, please!!) is a nice neighborhood. Just be ready to experience an urban environment (traffic, sirens, “interesting” people). And if you do find a 3 bedroom for under $200,000, please let me know!!
May 9, 2008 at 1:00 am
Hey Catherine! Thanks for the heads up. I’m from Chicago so I am aware of the housing prices and property taxes — particularly in Old Town, where we used to live. Ouch! Until recently, my blog has been read solely by friends and family who understand my propensity to exaggerate
Thanks for the post!
May 9, 2008 at 3:36 am
um, after spending 2 years working and going to school at LUC, I totally veto Rogers Park…plus too many college students (and since I spend all day w/ college students, I won’t visit if I’ll be surrounded by them at night
I vote that we get cardboard boxes next to each other, as I will be homeless in 2.5 months. Scope out a good locale and let me know what you find…I’m sure I can hook us up with some fantastic recycled cardboard from furniture delivery at work.
I just went out with Sherri…I’m totally checking out Andersonville!
May 9, 2008 at 7:31 am
Move to LA where you can pay $800,000 for a shit hole next to a celeb-owned mansion and a masturbating bum complete with stolen shopping cart as lawn fixture. I personally find it an incredible deal. =)
May 9, 2008 at 4:25 pm
PS: I would like to ask that the members of the Rogers Park Militia (or RoPaMi for short) simmer down! Seriously.
May 9, 2008 at 5:34 pm
Whoa! Ladies! Retract the claws!! Ha ha ha ha
May 9, 2008 at 6:48 pm
Honey, none of the addresses you quoted as heard on the scanner are in Rogers Park. Most are in Chicago’s south side or west side, which are both a long way from Rogers Park.
Yes, we DO have a couple of problem pockets, namely around the Morse el and around Howard St. I’d personally avoid these areas. And, yes, you have to be a little more careful about your personal safety than in some gated enclave.
However, most places here are reasonable safe, and some are very safe. You and your husband can indeed save mucho bucks living around here, and have a visually beautiful neighborhood with interesting, lively people, a strong sense of community, lots of interesting places to eat, and shopping withing walking distance. Edgewater, right next door, is another great neighborhood and has everything you need within walking distance- restaurants, theatre, supermarkets, library, and the beach.
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May 11, 2008 at 5:23 am
We have lived in Rogers Park for ten years without incident. In a densely populated neighborhood, things happen, but we have seen little of much concern compared to Bowmanville. (West Andersonville, now). In fact, some in south Evanston have thought about moving south to Rogers Park.
Some verbally abuse the local park that is a three block walk from our home on other blogs. We will be using the field tomorrow and find that our presence is positive. AYSO plays near Rogers School on Sundays. http://www.rpayso.org.
I walk home after midnight without incident, but parking is two dollars at the Howard Terminal. The Station is just about the finish a major remodeling. The Garden Club is thriving and the Historical Society just finished its 22nd Annual Home Tour.
In addition, our son will graduate from Decatur Classical, the top scoring public school in Illinois, which is less than a mile and a half away.
When in Rogers Park visit Indian Boundary Park and see the Zoo just west of Lunt and Western. The beaches are a bike ride away. Loyola University has great babysitters. There is a parent’s group for those with young children. We also have neighborhood walks to deter crime, which seem to work. I could continue but I might upset those who may thing that the grass is always greener someplace else.
For a community at the gateway between the suburbs and the city, I still find Rogers Park to be a great opportunity.
Sometimes, I wonder whether real estate agents are the ones who are blogging for business. Of course, many are just trying to provide the most sensational news, which can be entertaining, at times. However, some bloggers seem depressed to me, as well.
Obviously, some bloggers have not visited Louisville, KY recently to draw any comparison, IMHO, or spent much time in those neighborhoods.
May 11, 2008 at 5:33 am
A few other items that I forgot to mention. There is a kayak center in Rogers Park.
http://www.genevakayak.com/contact/index.html
There are also waterways nearby with incredible herons to observe if you are into boating.
Rogers Park Garden Group
http://web.mac.com/rrouilly/iWeb/RPgarden2/Home/Home.html
Rogers Park Historical Society
http://www.rpwrhs.org
I could continue with the links, but you may have visited http://www.rogerspark.com by now. w/r/t Andersonville, it is overpriced and I think that there is more crime. Rogers Park is becoming more and more attractive. Our home has appreciated over 3x since we purchased in 1998.